Idle speculation at its finest. Its not free though. I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. There is no proof that the bodies are posed but the speculation of what it could mean if they were posed is worth discussion. Here's the Update in His Case. To do this, he uses the knives the deer kit that BG has around his waist. I wont reveal who I am talking about here though it should be obvious. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. Face is in quotes because it's likely my mind just making a rational picture out of sticks and tree trunks. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. 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Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. We believe him. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! Thank you I came here after being directed to you. Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Deer kit on waist with five hunting knives. It is being said that we are claiming all sorts of odd things about this crime, what happened, and the crime scene. As this continues to be an active and ongoing investigation, the Indiana State Police will continue to provide any and all resources available to assist in the prosecution of this case.". Flowers sit by a bridge near Delphi, Ind. So when you are saying, No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents, do you think its possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? We dont know about you all, but when we go visit our friends, we generally dont park a quarter mile away and hike in. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. No one else reacted that way. I want to be respectful to someone who is innocent until proven guilty also. Something to think about. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. Pay no attention to the first sketch, which looks like a middle aged man, Mr. X. The probable cause affidavit did reveal that clothes belonging to the girls were found in a creek south of where their bodies were discovered. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! Thats because they havent been told shit. Does he say where he thinks they were found, if not 50ft from the water? If you want to get to the real meat of the post, scroll down to Facts of the Main Suspect in the Case Mr. X. But no arrests have ever been made with several promising leads or theories arising over the years, only to go cold. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. The bodies were found on property belonging to Ronald Logan. Robert Lindsay isnt just one guy. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. The trail in Delphi, Indiana, where Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were killed on Feb. 13, 2017. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. Thank you so much! A timeline establishing publicly known. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Your email address will not be published. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. Professor at a local university, known for the Geocaching Theory. Your email address will not be published. Chemicals used in an attempt to hide fingerprints. Too much points to them to be coincidence. Since Libby and Abby were young, and the perpetrator is between 18 and 40, according to the statistics would that indicate a possible attempt to thwart the investigation? Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. 9) He has killed before. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. It was all over by 3:30. Then again, what if it wasnt? David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. The incident was nicknamed the "Snapchat Murders" after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. Both investigators were women. Same with Evansdale probably too. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. We all go through shit in our lives, but if she wants to stop making enemies, she can stop picking fights. Empiricism is a thing. Also his personality is nothing like Scott Alexander, some sock who is claiming to be LK on Facebook groups. 4-lane highway. You came over here after sitting over of that hate Reddit, LibbyandAbby where youve been hating on me. And sickeningly, the murderer 'staged' the girls' bodies in a particular way after killing them, although it remains unclear exactly how he did this. Will be posted by Saturday, March 11th. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing.. Hes a straight man with a wife, but maybe hes wimpy like a lot of straight men are. However, smudged prints are of very dubious value. The friend texted a man named David, who claims to have found the bodies, because there were alleged crime scene photos leaked online. Background to the Delphi Murders On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. Hi folks. The girls hand was wrapped around the knife to make it appear that she was stabbing herself. When interviewed by police in 2017, Allen said he was on the trail on the afternoon of the murders, according to the probable cause affidavit. Thanks, Mike! One problem was we went down the rabbit hole chasing the wrong guy for a couple of years. Hi folks! Everyone was crowding around to look at the crime he had committed. Yes it is all speculation. Thats going to be very hard for him to explain. This is getting ridiculous. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Not so much for 15 year old girls. It doesnt seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. Thanks again for the interesting and jaw dropping article!!! This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. Hes bored and has nothing to do, so we recruited him to sleuth for us. Of course we don't know how the bodies were found and if they were posed or staged, we only know that the crime scene was unbelievable disturbing and horrible. The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. I dont care what anybodys age is. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. Where did he get the food and what was the food? Days later the State of Indiana issues him a lifetime concealed carry permit signed by Superintendent Doug Carter. The investigation continued, and Kline was arrested in 2020 on charges unrelated to the Delphi murders. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? Then they have the nerve to beg for witnesses to come forward with information. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. If it was an adult male, that changes things considerably. When Allen voluntarily spoke to police on Oct. 26, 2022, he said he never allowed anyone to borrow that gun, which he said he owned since 2001, the document added. He has reportedly filed a plea of not guilty and is being held without bond. See below for which rumors we believe are proven and which are unverified. A pair of binoculars. They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. Its true by process of elimination. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Never knew what the case was against this man other than that he had property near the bridge, and he and his wifes alibi of being out of the state traveling got a bit mangled. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. Police cleared nations as a suspect. Required fields are marked *. If the killer had that weird and I would assume rare fetish with the sticks, branches and stakes, maybe the local sex workers may know exactly who it is? X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. The profile was used from 2016 to 2017 on platforms including Snapchat and Instagram and used photos of a known male model, portraying him as being extremely wealthy and owning numerous sports cars. Which begs the question, if Mr. X is BG, how did he come to acquire a pair of Indiana Packers boots, which is what he appears to be wearing during his crime? Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? My money is on an edged weapon. That would mean he would have had to drive back to Delphi by at least 3:45 and possibly later, depending on what town he was in and when he left. Allen's wife confirmed to police that he owns a blue Carhartt jacket, the document said. Easy, they were lying! Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in February 2017. Start your Independent Premium subscription today. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. Otherwise why do we have religions? Guilty until proven innocent! They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! Article: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. The gun jammed, which Garrett said is common. Kelsi German: Sister of Libby. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. Thing is, we cant figure out if it is a crumpled piece of paper, dried leaves, a stuffed toy, or a doll. What? was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. He ran off for s copy for us and sent it to us in the mail. The motive was sexual. Twice they were wrong. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. Kline is said to have arranged to meet with Libby on the Delphi High Bridge the day before she was murdered while walking along it. A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. I tend to think its a doll. Finally, after five long years, the Indiana State Police has charged a 50-year-old local man with the Delphi murders of two teenage best friends, Libby German and Abby Williams. He was 18 in 1984, so we figured he graduated that year, but maybe he graduated in 1986 when he was 20. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. It is now learned that he was arrested on two counts of murder, however, officials said the case is far from complete.. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. The creator of the bogus online profile had already been identified as Kegan Anthony Kline, a 27-year-old man with addresses in Kokomo and Peru, close to Delphi. Do you feel that the KAK (Anthony_shots) announcement is a red herring or that its linked to the Delphi murders? Corn fields? 24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? It is unclear when and where the photo was taken. She wanted to meet up with him. What makes even less sense to me are some of the things that they have said or at least have not challenged as not being factual. The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. The Delphi Murders: Four years later Libby & Abby's killer is still out there. KAK and his Dad. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. 10) Regarding crime scene: Red herrings to throw off law enforcement. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. But that would mean that Becky Patty would have to say that she called the wife. He thinks it is Garrett Kirts. We dont know if or when he worked for them before or after. Theres no woman among them. Sexual age orientation: Pedohebephilia, nonexclusive, AOA 8-14. Police still have not released their causes of death. Do you think an LE source might be talking to one of them or perhaps someone who knows one of them? This proves more of Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said BG sent photos or video to one of the girls phones after the crime. Shameful. Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Now, Im not a member of LE, and I have never claimed to have investigation experience, but I believe Im a fairly intelligent person with at least average reasoning skills. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. A large amount of blood was lost by the victims at the crime scene, an agent wrote in the warrant. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. Required fields are marked *. This what first aroused LE suspicions of Mr. X. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Neither he nor his father have been arrested over the Delphi Bridge killings. Indiana State Police said in February they knew who killed the girls, but that they had insufficient evidence to make an arrest. Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. And Mr X was involved in a Christian teen club! Unless he made them undress -- which I guess is possible -- was there some other weapon used?". Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower.